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65 deluxe

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  • September 28, 2012 at 11:52 pm #2375
    Adrian Lewis
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    hi all i have a 65 deluxe in holly green is it common to have one without a K stamped next to the date as all the bikes ive owned ( 6 ) have all had it stamped

    September 29, 2012 at 9:27 am #3530
    Ian
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    I have a couple of (presumably) Kirkby Mk2’s Deluxes that do not have any ‘year’ stamps at all – both numbered though – 72924 and (what looks like) 63091 7

    September 29, 2012 at 9:40 pm #3531
    kenneth buttterfield
    Member

    The frame numbers are fairly simple, from memory so please forgive
    anything I miss!
    There were three factories plus the S works that produced F-
    frames .The first was at Kirkby and these feature a K plus the year
    ie. K65 on one side of the seat clamp and six digits on the other
    side, the first two being the week number and the next four being
    the frame produced that week. As these were made in batches and
    perhaps not rotated stock wise this is a fairly rough guide only,
    but the year should hopefully be correct!

    Bradford built bikes usually have eight digits one one side of the
    seat clamp..the first two being the year, the second two being the
    week number and the last four… the frame produced that week..see it
    really is simple!
    “S” numbers are similar to Bradford, but stamped much cleaner and
    straighter.
    Oh and forgot the other factory at Nottingham but nobody understands
    their system?
    Ken B

    September 30, 2012 at 10:22 pm #3532
    Alexander Johnston
    Participant

    Hi Ken
    Ian’s Deluxes don’t seem to conform to the numbering system you’ve described. One has 6 digits and the other has 5 and both have no “year” stamps. I suppose the 5 digit one could have been made in the seventh week and was the two thousand, nine hundred and twenty-fourth produced that week; perhaps they just stamped 7 rather than 07.
    The sixth digit one is more difficult to interpret as obviously there are not 63 weeks in a year. Could this one have been made by Raleigh?
    Alex

    October 1, 2012 at 6:32 am #3537
    Ian
    Participant

    Have a look for yourself

    72924 – http://tinyurl.com/9flo2hd
    and
    63091 7- http://tinyurl.com/8rfeqya

    (If you use the arrows on the pictures to look through the albums you’ll find the blank sides of the seat tubes too!)

    October 1, 2012 at 5:09 pm #3538
    Alexander Johnston
    Participant

    Is it my imagination or do I detect a 3 before the 7?
    Alex

    October 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm #3539
    kenneth buttterfield
    Member

    There are of course variations to the formula…like the story that moulton numbers were inflated to confuse raleigh !
    ken

    October 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm #3540
    Ian
    Participant

    I wonder if mine are Raleigh built? Hence the lack of Bradford or Kirkby nomenclature?

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