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What exact model is this… please help!!
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Hello everyone, This is my first post and I do not know much about Moultons. I inherited a Moulton ATB and I do not seem to be able to accurately identify its origins. It is in near perfect condition and belonged to my step father, who being an engineer, really appreciated this bike, but looking at it, never really rode it.
It is Bright yellow pylon frame.
It has an unusual gear set up…5 speed Sturmey Archer rear hub with 2 speed rear cassette and rear derailleur gear. Double chain set, but no front mech, so you have to manually change the chain from ring to ring
I have photos which I can upload if there is an easy way to do it
The serial number on the bottom bracket is F.A.T 913201
Can anyone help me identify it and when it could have been produced.. many thanks for your help in advanceSounds like a Moulton ATB (if that is what it says on the bike!) They were sold as frame sets to bicycle builders who could build them up as the customer wanted.
It’s a nice bike and pretty rare – I’d recommend that you don’t go selling it to the first person who sends you a message promising the bike a ‘good home’ as they may well just intend to profit from your posting about it on here. 😉
Sounds like the rare yellow ATB. I have the paperwork for this model somewhere. I will try and dig it out. I’m sure the gearing was more conventional on it’s release. It sounds like the gearing has been customised? It has 20 ratios now possibly intended for hilly touring? It would be interesting to know what size the rear sprockets are? What size the chain rings are? And what is the rear hub? SRAM? Its a nice bike and a collector’s piece.
HI David
Sounds like a nice bike and a collector’s piece.
I ecko what Ian has said above.
If you want to sell beware of someone ringing you up and offering a low price and a good home and then subsequently putting it on Ebay for a high BIN price.
If eventually you do want to sell either put it on this site or ebay with good photos or join the MBC and bring it along to the annual Bradford on Avon meeting.
This will give all those you could be interested an opportunity to buy at a reasonable price.Many thanks for the reply’s, is there any way to post photos on this site? so you can see it?
The rear 2 sprockets are 20 / 18 and the chain set rings are 52 / 18 stronglight crankset, rear gear is shimano sis , rear brake is deore, front is pit bull odysee, both v brakes. Saddle is brooks with matching yellow springs
Gary, if you have any info on this bike, it would be great to know, All I know is it was originally supplied by Swift cycles in London
Many thanks for the information and advise, when is the annual meeting at Bradford upon Avon?Can you post a link David? I’m too useless to be able to find them!
Not here are they?
https://www.flickr.com/groups/1005224@N20/The Moulton Club has an annual meeting at the end of the summer – you have just missed this years event! (http://www.moultonbuzz.com/2014/08/boa-weekend-2014/) but will be about the same time next year.
This is what you might expect to find there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/anglepoise/sets/72157647107810096/
Ian
click on the Moulton Flickr link set up on the right hand side of this page under the heading pictures
this is the link https://www.flickr.com/groups/moulton_bicycle/pool/
last set of pics of yellow moultonGot it! That really is lovely.
I hope you are planning to keep it and ride it – it’s what they are for!
There is a book by Tony Hadland ‘The Spaceframe Moultons’ which you can buy new from Amazon for @£50 and can often find on ebay for £25 (so don’t be tempted to pay the rip-off prices some greedy folk like to ask for them! 😉 ) which has a whole chapter about the development and sale of the ATB.
The bike is a full Bradford – on- Avon ATB, it is not a Pashley Stratford – on Avon bike in my opinion, although Pashley were about to make the 20 inch wheel APB under license, ( all purpose bike) at the same time.
To read the serial number, the format is
yywkframenumber
so 913201 is 1991 week32 frame 1
The F A T stamping is interesting, what can it mean? Perhaps you have the first production AM all terrain bike.
Swift Cycles of Forest Hill London were one of the leading AM dealers, they seemed to have an inside knowledge of the plans and intentions of Bradford- upon-AvonPandora, many thanks for that information, sorry, but another question… does anybody know how much it is worth?
From the replies so far, it sounds as if we are dealing with something fairly unique and I was wondering about getting it insured if it is of any worthHard to say, the bike has lost the mount for the front changer, so that will need repairing.
To my knowledge Bradford -on Avon did not make any more of these for around 20 years, until a couple of years ago, they made a one-off for Shaun Moulton, nephew of Alex Moulton. He was selling it last year, I cannot remember the price, the bike was of high specification, components “the best”
A criticism of the type is for off-road use, 20 inch wheels can be a disadvantage over larger wheels.For a starting figure I would say £1500
David, it is ‘worth’ what anyone will pay for it. For insurance purposes best to see what is close to a ‘replacement’ for it. There is nothing quite like it – but a hub geared TSR8 is @£1300 and Fudges make a TSR11 for @£1900. But it isn’t really one of them and I would not be surprised if it made more than that if you stuck it on ebay with worldwide shipping.
But whether you could get the insurance company to agree to pay what it is ‘worth’ if it is stolen is another matter! But think what the owners of £16,500 AM DP’s do? (My guess is most are not insured…..!)
Pashley also made a version of the ATB, known as the duo drive, there are modest differences in frame construction, possibly the geometry too. it has a single chainwheel, witha 3speed internal hub fitted with an 8 speed derailleur, I have the Pashely duo drive , purchased new in 2006, the last year of production, a bike which enjoys bridle way and light off-road riding, it is definately a “keeper”, the brakes are powerful and the wide but not excessive, tyres mean the bike is very sure footed, I am pleased to report, it still rolls easily!
My Pashley bike is made from Reynolds 525 tubing , your ATB is it probably Reynolds 531. Also there is a Pashley version made for Land Rover, and badged as such, colours are Land Rover Green or Yellow. Supply exceeded demand and they were offloaded at bargain prices, £800 from memory
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